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Post by diogenes on Nov 25, 2004 3:45:01 GMT -5
Yup If'n ya can't take em on directly... ya can always find a stategy that makes ya look like winner The problem with that though is some here have seen through the the off again on again multiple personalities ;D ;D ;D
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Post by diogenes on Nov 25, 2004 4:14:23 GMT -5
Beware the manipulator! Start a thread then delete it and leave the other members questioning what the reponder is on about. Cowards really!
Methods of the Invalidator
Uncertainty One method of an invalidator is to keep you in a constant state of uncertainty. She rarely gives you an answer. Just vagueness - no commitment.
Projection The favorite tool of the invalidator: she simply takes her own feelings and puts the responsibility for them onto another person, as if these feelings originate with the other person.
Generalizations Generalizations are simply exaggerations of small truths. The more truth there is in a generalization, the more it can be exaggerated. A person who uses generalizations does so to be in control of another.
Judgment A person who is responsible for their feelings would say they are angry that you didn't do such and such. But the invalidator projects the responsibility for this judgment onto the world, as if everyone would agree that you are no good. In doing this, the invalidator attacks your self-esteem instead of the real problem.
Manipulation Manipulation is bad control. There is such a thing as good control. Good control is ethical and includes a fair exchange, "please" and "thank you." The invalidator wants to control . . . period. If good control fails, she uses bad control. If the usual methods fail, she uses devious, covert, or overt methods, because she is compelled to win or be in control. You may often be pressured to let her have things her way. She will use sneaky methods of manipulation, or outright methods of domination. An invalidator is a manipulator.
Sneak Attack "I don't want to upset you but..." (He probably does want to upset you.) "I don't mean to interrupt . . ."(Right!!) "I don't mean to rain on your parade." (Uh huh). "Don't let this bother you, but . . " (Bother. Bother.) "I hope this doesn't insult you, but . . " (Here comes an insult!) His words are sweet, but underneath are daggers. The tongue is a mighty weapon, a sharp sword. There is more and a clear image is emerging here
The manipulator craves validation; to be know for their wit and charm recognition name dropping, tales of glorious adventures, and so on.
Clever individuals these manipulators, Not by a long shot! Cowards really! And deadly! Oh look here is one now! Either by ignoring or one upping or some other tactic They must maintain their nature.
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Post by diogenes on Nov 25, 2004 4:57:01 GMT -5
A Message to Invalidation You are this tremendous burden that impinges on me, whether I like it or not. You take no responsibility but create more and more unwanted responsibility for me. You come from the bowels of the physical universe. You are destructive. You are evil. You kill people. You degrade people. You create egomaniacs from your evil power. You enable people to suppress via your control mechanisms. You are sneaky. You have no conscience. You abuse the cherished things in life and spoil them. You create more evil with evil. You create sickness, and you are sickness. You are one of the sinister archetypes. You re-create yourself. People have used destructive forces to destroy you. They have killed people, but not you. You have been used against yourself. Invalidators have been invalidatred. This has perpetuated you with the illusion that you were defeated. In crusades, the victors have to use evil to conquer, and in so doing, the victors become evil themselves. You are paradoxical. You are subtle in your righteousness. You are a quirk. But you shall be conquered. You shall be exposed to the world. And in your nakedness you shall be helpless. You shall carry no force. You shall be anticipated. I will persist. I know how you work. I know your weaknesses. I am not being destructive. I will not persist against you. My approach will be to extract the being from the mehcanism. You as a mechanism cannot operate except subtly, and I shall remove the subtlety and make you known. The being will see you, thereby separating himself from what you are. He will be who he is, and you will be just a mechanism. And the paradox is that no one will destroy you. They will just choose not to nourish you, and you will die. I will do this not out of ego - not for credit. I do it out of love for my self. My self as humanity. I do it out of choice. And I have chosen to be completely responsible for you. I attempt to unmask you, not for evil purpose of trying to destroy evil, but to free myself and others from this paradox. I can see, as a prophesy, that evil will diminish as a result. I will carry my distaste for you. I will enjoy seeing you disappear. Your elimination will give me sustenance. Any my purpose will be love, and not destruction. So this is the beginning of your end. When this secret is exposed, it will no longer be effective. If you have read this far, you are a person who wants to improve yourself and improve the way people live around you and with you. Together we can work a miracle for generations to come. Invalidation can be terrible for an individual, but the problem really stems from an "us" problem. The future of human kind should live in peace and harmony. If we don't do something about invalidation, who will? And if it's not now, then when? It has to be us and it has to be NOW.
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